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we're going to talk about biden. let's take a look at vice president biden, he talks about republicans are seizing on a line in his remarks yesterday when he describes the difficulties facing the middle class and the current economy. let's take a look at what biden said. >> this is deadly earnest, man. this is deadly earnest. how they can justify, how they can justify raising taxes on the middle class that's been buried the last four years. how in lord's name can they justify raising their taxes? >> well, that created shortly after joe biden tweuttered thos words, mitt romney tweeted. and later in the day, paul ryan, his running made, referred to biden's remarks on the campaign trail thusly -- >> vice president biden said today the middle class over the last four years has been, quote, buried. we agree. that means we need to stop digging by electing mitt romney the next president of the united states. >> senator, this is the new politics. quick reaction, war room kind of politics. is it worthy of our attention? does
we're going to talk about biden. let's take a look at vice president biden, he talks about republicans are seizing on a line in his remarks yesterday when he describes the difficulties facing the middle class and the current economy. let's take a look at what biden said. >> this is deadly earnest, man. this is deadly earnest. how they can justify, how they can justify raising taxes on the middle class that's been buried the last four years. how in lord's name can they justify raising...
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maybe it's going to be joe biden. we don't know. >> january schakowsky, michelle cottle, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >>> the president has been fired up for days and today we know exactly why. good luck, governor. >> we put two wars and tax cuts on a credit card and now governor romney wants another $5 trillion in tax cuts that he can't pay for? not if i've got anything to say about it. >>> plus, a tea party group accused of hovering and getting into faces is under fire. congressman cummings is demanding answers. he's here exclusively. >>> and live from new york, it's me, our friends at "snl" took on yours truly and the msnbc team. oh, yeah, i've got something to say about it. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc. >> it's a mile below the earth so for him, speaking to colorado was like being flown two miles into the air and having to give a speech in outer space. an intense burning sensation i woke up with this horrible rash on my right side. like somebody had set it on fire. and the doctor said, cind
maybe it's going to be joe biden. we don't know. >> january schakowsky, michelle cottle, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >>> the president has been fired up for days and today we know exactly why. good luck, governor. >> we put two wars and tax cuts on a credit card and now governor romney wants another $5 trillion in tax cuts that he can't pay for? not if i've got anything to say about it. >>> plus, a tea party group accused of hovering and getting...
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>> you may have overlooked the fact that for the last few weeks i've been joe biden. so -- >> mr. olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep, which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or in my attempt to persuade ryan on this issue. don't understate the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change those attitudes is dialogue. and the way to change those attitudes is to talk to people about the fundamental right and the way to deal with republicans in my opinion is to say we are the party of abraham lincoln. let's not forget that. what are these -- we say that. let's live up to that. let's think about our principles here. what is decency and privacy and respect? can't talk about what happens in debate preparation but when those issues, if they're issues, they come up in the preparation because t
>> you may have overlooked the fact that for the last few weeks i've been joe biden. so -- >> mr. olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep, which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or in my attempt to persuade ryan on this issue. don't understate the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and...
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turned it back so the debates wouldn't be lethal to the incumbent president, this time, i think joe biden, he has flaws, his establish isn't precise some time but up against a guy child kind of a cold customer, i think he can beat him in terms of likablability if he stays joe biden out there and remains cool and not cold, putting an arm and grabbing you and saying how are you, and how is your mother, haven't seen here in a while, a very personal appeal, i wish he was doing a, biden was doing a tom hall setting, he would shine. >> i think president needs to b a bill oprah and clinton, watch the game films from bill clinton the way he talked to the young fearch woman in 1982, he embraced inner, where george senior, yes, where george seen wrote was saying i don't think you know what the word debt means or deficit, it was like he was questioning her competence with the language instead of saying let me help you. and bill clinton says let me help you, i have people in a small state where somebody is in trouble we know it and know it personally and i will know you personally if i am president,
turned it back so the debates wouldn't be lethal to the incumbent president, this time, i think joe biden, he has flaws, his establish isn't precise some time but up against a guy child kind of a cold customer, i think he can beat him in terms of likablability if he stays joe biden out there and remains cool and not cold, putting an arm and grabbing you and saying how are you, and how is your mother, haven't seen here in a while, a very personal appeal, i wish he was doing a, biden was doing a...
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the difference between the ryan/romney tape and what joe biden said, you can feel joe biden speaking for a palpable love. hes had has a love and admiration for the average working person whereas romney and ryan showed a disdain, make it 30, 47%. people who want to be president of the united states don't typically dislike a large swath of the american people. >> congresswoman, you're out there talking to people all the time. what has been the impact -- i think 47% of the line for romney is going to go right through november. >> i think so, too. the poe yet mayo angelou said it best, if people show you who they are, you should believe them. we need to have a president who fights for the middle class and i think that's the clear contrast that we will see on the debate stage tonight. >> what about next week? this could be the battle of the century but next week we have the light heavyweight. you have biden against ryan. what do you think? >> that's going to be a really clear contrast as well. joe biden has fighting for the middle class and for working families for his entire career for m
the difference between the ryan/romney tape and what joe biden said, you can feel joe biden speaking for a palpable love. hes had has a love and admiration for the average working person whereas romney and ryan showed a disdain, make it 30, 47%. people who want to be president of the united states don't typically dislike a large swath of the american people. >> congresswoman, you're out there talking to people all the time. what has been the impact -- i think 47% of the line for romney is...
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i mean same thing. >> coming on the heels of the romney campaign trying to use joe biden's biden-esque turn of phrase the middle class has been buried and you know, biden has walked that back, you know, is it an indictment of the president? look if you're going to fight for the ground on the middle class i don't know that joe biden is the person you want to be sparring against. >> he is by far the best middle class, working-class figure in this race. but to me, the hannity, drudge, obama thing, the ryan thing, i mean, really? this is all they got? i mean, i found the -- i found nothing that obama said in that speech objectionable or disagreeable, similarly, i find ryan's thing not -- i mean there's a sophisticated and legitimate argument to be made about, you know, entitlement and size of government and all that and i didn't find his version of it, so provocative -- >> i will say 30% of the country wants the welfare state this notion that there are people at the bottom of the income ladder that want to stay there because they're lazy -- >> the value judgment. the same kind of value jud
i mean same thing. >> coming on the heels of the romney campaign trying to use joe biden's biden-esque turn of phrase the middle class has been buried and you know, biden has walked that back, you know, is it an indictment of the president? look if you're going to fight for the ground on the middle class i don't know that joe biden is the person you want to be sparring against. >> he is by far the best middle class, working-class figure in this race. but to me, the hannity, drudge,...
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joe biden and paul ryan. let me make a prediction. i think joe biden will verbally destroy paul ryan, and i think he will the salvation of barack obama. >> you want to bet? >> i tend to agree with you, piers. senator biden is someone who is a fire brand for sure. and one of the things that came out of this debate, we can all agree president obama did not bring his "a" game and romney had a good night it will take a lot more to undo what has taken two years to burn in voters' brains. >> biden is the champion of the middle class, and that's what we want to hear. >> look, i'm going to put myself out there i won't promise 12 million jobs. >> don't bet $10,000 either. >> well, i never do that, i'm not a betting lady, but i will bet a cocktail or two. >> the reason i think you're wrong -- i've watched the convention speeches and i thought joe biden, with the possibility of bill clinton, made the best speech. >> absolutely. he will bring it. >> and i think joe biden will destroy paul ryan. >> absolutely not. absolutely not. >> i think you're
joe biden and paul ryan. let me make a prediction. i think joe biden will verbally destroy paul ryan, and i think he will the salvation of barack obama. >> you want to bet? >> i tend to agree with you, piers. senator biden is someone who is a fire brand for sure. and one of the things that came out of this debate, we can all agree president obama did not bring his "a" game and romney had a good night it will take a lot more to undo what has taken two years to burn in...
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and i think if joe biden is smart, he's going to use this and use some of governor romney's comments to put paul ryan in the corner. >> eliot: that's absolutely correct if one was trying to be as thoroughly objective as one might be but having lived through the fog of politics, objectivity and fact is in the eye of the beholder and therefore i think establishing what is true and what is fact will be difficult for either side going forward and governor romney certainly took the aggressive posture here. let's talk very quickly demeanor. tim, the president's demeanor many people thought was simply one of defense. he just -- he didn't seem to be the forceful advocate that he has been. do you agree with that? you said you watched it again today. did he strike you as being more affirmatively impressive than he struck us last night? >> well, you know, it sounded worse on the radio. so when i saw it on tv, it wasn't quite so bad. he really did kick it into gear at the end. so i don't think -- this is the first of three debates. and i think we saw at the end a president who's completely capab
and i think if joe biden is smart, he's going to use this and use some of governor romney's comments to put paul ryan in the corner. >> eliot: that's absolutely correct if one was trying to be as thoroughly objective as one might be but having lived through the fog of politics, objectivity and fact is in the eye of the beholder and therefore i think establishing what is true and what is fact will be difficult for either side going forward and governor romney certainly took the aggressive...
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what is going to be, i guess the means, as vice president biden goes up against ryan. >> you are all in chains and middle-class is buried. the media picked up on these on the way dan quayle there wouldn't be a debate. they would have biden in an undisclosed question. >> jon: big vice presidential debate comes next week, you can with a watch it on fox news channel on thursday night and more news watch ahead. >> first, if you see something that you feel shows evidence of media bias. you have twitter you can tweet us. are the polls biased or is it the coverage? >> bring in the numbers, when it comes to political polls, who do you trust? who should you trust? and is there someone in the back room cooking the numbers? find out next on news watch. ande mother of three. it was soccer, and ballet, and cheerleading, and baseball. those years were crazy. so, as we go into this next phase, you know, a big part of it for us is that there isn't anything on the schedule. flavor, meet food. it's time for swanson flavor boost. concentrated broth in easy to use packets. mix it into skillet dishes, fo
what is going to be, i guess the means, as vice president biden goes up against ryan. >> you are all in chains and middle-class is buried. the media picked up on these on the way dan quayle there wouldn't be a debate. they would have biden in an undisclosed question. >> jon: big vice presidential debate comes next week, you can with a watch it on fox news channel on thursday night and more news watch ahead. >> first, if you see something that you feel shows evidence of media...
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the offender is today -- vice-president joe biden. who is that gaffe isn't vice-president outright admit that this middle class has been buried the last four years. and his opponent, paul ryan, jumping all over that comment. >> this is deadly ernest. how they can justify -- how they can justify raising taxes to the middle class who has been buried the last four years -- how in lord's name, can they justify raiding their taxes with these tax cuts? >> vice-president biden just today said that the middle class, over the last four years has been, quote, buried. we agree. that means we need to stop digging, by electing mitt romney the next president of the united states. [cheers and applause] of course, the middle clationz class has been buried, they are buried by regulations and buried by taxes and borrowing, they are being buried by the obama administration's economic failures. >> greta: so will the obama campaign take a political hit with that one, mr. speaker? it's dangerous to talk these days? >> look, it's pretty hard to take anythin
the offender is today -- vice-president joe biden. who is that gaffe isn't vice-president outright admit that this middle class has been buried the last four years. and his opponent, paul ryan, jumping all over that comment. >> this is deadly ernest. how they can justify -- how they can justify raising taxes to the middle class who has been buried the last four years -- how in lord's name, can they justify raiding their taxes with these tax cuts? >> vice-president biden just today...
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joe biden. >> don't boo, he is the best thing we got going, guys. in a brief moment of clarity, he told us what we already knew. >> they say they expect him to call on the gop. the president has repeatedly said that he has not said how he will do it. but in an interview with a denver tv station, romney began to do just that. >> you could say everybody will get up to a $17,000 deduction, and you canchartible deduction, or mortgage deduction. >> romney officials will not say if they are one-liners saved up for tonight, but they say it will not be difficult to go after the president on the economy. translation, wolf, i think that means we'll have to wait and see what happens tonight. meanwhile, the romney campaign, or a romney family member has tried to take romney supporters out there and the rest of americans looking forward to tonight's debate inside the romney campaign debate preparations between mitt romney and rob portman, the ohio senator playing the roll of president obama. he tweeted out a picture earlier today of the two men in debate prepara
joe biden. >> don't boo, he is the best thing we got going, guys. in a brief moment of clarity, he told us what we already knew. >> they say they expect him to call on the gop. the president has repeatedly said that he has not said how he will do it. but in an interview with a denver tv station, romney began to do just that. >> you could say everybody will get up to a $17,000 deduction, and you canchartible deduction, or mortgage deduction. >> romney officials will not...
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. >> romney pounded joe biden for stating the administration' goal on a trillion dollar tax hike on those making more than 200,000 a year or family 250,000. >> people in the middle class has been squeezed or buried as the vice-president said. and romney's remarks, inelegant. 47%, he renounced it once and for all. >> completely wrong and i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that i care about 100%. >> and hoped with those remarks, romney would lay those to rest and close the door on that. to prevent that the democrats were pumping out attack ads to keep it very much. >> bret: carl cameron, on your last point, almost everyone talking about wednesday's debate says mitt romney did pretty well or won, but how he won, that's the question, as carl mentioned, that has entered the post debate spin cycle. >> governor romney may dance around his positions, but if you want to be president, you owe the american people the truth. >> stretching the truth or worse, that's how mitt romney won the debate. it's now a familiar refrain from democrats. echoed by sympathetic media outlets. >> i
. >> romney pounded joe biden for stating the administration' goal on a trillion dollar tax hike on those making more than 200,000 a year or family 250,000. >> people in the middle class has been squeezed or buried as the vice-president said. and romney's remarks, inelegant. 47%, he renounced it once and for all. >> completely wrong and i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that i care about 100%. >> and hoped with those remarks, romney would lay those to...
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the stakes are raised now for the paul ryan versus joe biden debate. the obama campaign i don't think can afford the perception that they lost two in a row. i would think vice president joe biden's fingernails are beginning to sweat about next wednesday because he's somewhat in the same position as president obama. he's been vice president in for four years. had a lot of things going. been a long time since he's debated. paul ryan has been in the cut and thrust of congress, to be better prepared. however, ryan is in the shoes president obama was in last night and the expectations are high for ryan. i think most people feel that paul ryan will walk joe biden's dog in this debate, and that's a down for him. i would venture that the vice presidential debate may get the largest audience of any vice presidential de debate we've had so far. >> in 2008 with the introduction of sarah palin was the first time the vice presidential debate was ever the highest 01:39:43:rate ed debate. we have this again. >> governor romney, last night, people say he mangled the t
the stakes are raised now for the paul ryan versus joe biden debate. the obama campaign i don't think can afford the perception that they lost two in a row. i would think vice president joe biden's fingernails are beginning to sweat about next wednesday because he's somewhat in the same position as president obama. he's been vice president in for four years. had a lot of things going. been a long time since he's debated. paul ryan has been in the cut and thrust of congress, to be better...
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huge huge arsenal that the republicans have against a bit barack obama and democrats how about what biden said that the middle class has been buried over the past four years you know that's true i totally agree and that's obama's fault you know i mean they are just trying to not let you know how about libya that has failed to be addressed the idea that we had warning and we didn't do anything about it that's huge and the media out there during nine eleven saying the same thing when we had you know some notice that something was going on there did you castigate congolese or rice and president bush and vice president cheney are using this for partisan politics you have nine eleven that set a precedent that was that now on nine eleven two thousand we're going to be alert everywhere not even sure that we got was on may first that nine eleven was going to happen may first the book just came out a week and a half ago we had the new york times reporter kurt eichenwald on the program here for a half hour made for freedom of information act they laid it out they even identified who the people were
huge huge arsenal that the republicans have against a bit barack obama and democrats how about what biden said that the middle class has been buried over the past four years you know that's true i totally agree and that's obama's fault you know i mean they are just trying to not let you know how about libya that has failed to be addressed the idea that we had warning and we didn't do anything about it that's huge and the media out there during nine eleven saying the same thing when we had you...
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. >>> next thursday, it this time, vice president joe biden will face-off on topics of foreign and domestic policy. martha will moderate. we will bring it to you live right here on ktvu. we have stream tonight's debate live on ktvu.com. we will be doing the same for the upcoming debates. >>> simply amazing. the a's win the west in spectacular fashion. and we now know who they will face in the first round of the play os. it's the detroit tigers starting this weekend. if anyone would have told you in july, a's would win the west, you probably would say they are nuts. the a's pulled it off. brad english, where the champagne was flowing once again late this afternoon. fred? >> julie, second time this week. i talked to one of the age administrators. he said this standing room only crowd was the loudest crowd he's heard in the 25 years with the organization. today, they got their money's worth because the tech as rangers -- texas rangers is leading 5-1 in the fourth inning. they score 6 runs on 4 hits, 2 walks on a costly texas rangers error. rookie fly ball on center field. josh hamilton simply
. >>> next thursday, it this time, vice president joe biden will face-off on topics of foreign and domestic policy. martha will moderate. we will bring it to you live right here on ktvu. we have stream tonight's debate live on ktvu.com. we will be doing the same for the upcoming debates. >>> simply amazing. the a's win the west in spectacular fashion. and we now know who they will face in the first round of the play os. it's the detroit tigers starting this weekend. if anyone...
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videos of joe biden v. paul ryan. the battle royal still to come. spoofs are a fun way the digital age has changed the campaigns and also a serious impact. think about it. twitter was still relatively fledgling four years ago. tonight for the first time, instant reaction from the crowd could shape the national post-debate conversation. just as much as the opinions of journalists and pundits do. so, let's do what journalists and pundits do and talk about it. i think, you know, twitter and -- and i mentioned this yesterday in "the rant," i mean, twitter is a really fun way to watch a debate. live tweeting through it, see what other people have to say. but it's also really changed the sperngs. you know, as we tease there, you get instant reaction to real-time events. it's completely democraticized the experience of getting news and watching politics because everyone can be a pundit and a news producer by retweeting what other people are saying. and it develops these real-time twitter means we've seen throughout the year, which i think have been really
videos of joe biden v. paul ryan. the battle royal still to come. spoofs are a fun way the digital age has changed the campaigns and also a serious impact. think about it. twitter was still relatively fledgling four years ago. tonight for the first time, instant reaction from the crowd could shape the national post-debate conversation. just as much as the opinions of journalists and pundits do. so, let's do what journalists and pundits do and talk about it. i think, you know, twitter and -- and...
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first, here is joe biden's analysis. >> i think the president did a wonderful job, a wonderful job, a wonderful job. >> he really is an american treasure, leave now and you'll miss dana performing a version of "smoke on the water." excited "the five". >> last night it was tk obama at the first debate in denver. how did he react today? >> so you see the man on stage last night, he does not want to be hel accountable for the real mitt romney's decisions and what he's been saying for the last year. that's because he knows full well that we don't want what he's been selling for the last year. governor romney may dance around his positions, but if you want to be president, you owe the american people the truth. >> so kimberly, a little different today than last night, huh? >> well, let me tell you, maybe he did some pushups or something because he seemed more fired up. but also at the beginning of that was bizarre, he wouldn't look at mitt romney last night. then they beginning, he wouldn't say his name. the guy on the stage doesn't want to be held accountable. who are you talk being? your
first, here is joe biden's analysis. >> i think the president did a wonderful job, a wonderful job, a wonderful job. >> he really is an american treasure, leave now and you'll miss dana performing a version of "smoke on the water." excited "the five". >> last night it was tk obama at the first debate in denver. how did he react today? >> so you see the man on stage last night, he does not want to be hel accountable for the real mitt romney's decisions...
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biden and ryan are agreeing. obama hasn't got the middle class out of the hole that happened under george bush's watch and policies of george bush. but look at the review. broadly obama has sought policies to decrease taxes on the middle class. 16 taxings decreased for maul business and 3600 for the class that are done underneath this president. >> it sounds smart because of the accent. wayne, two examples. taxes that are in place and taxes that are coming in the end of the year and alling the class and behaabout the issue regulation. is that the issue that is burying the middle class. >> regulation is more of the issue. we get the bush tax cut in effect. and the idea that the last four years you have had massive taxings. no they are yet to come. man date for noncompliance in 2014 and cadillac tax in 2018 and special kids in 2013. they were not taxes of the last four years they are taxes of the future. you have had massive regulation in the last four years and executive orders coming out of the federal government
biden and ryan are agreeing. obama hasn't got the middle class out of the hole that happened under george bush's watch and policies of george bush. but look at the review. broadly obama has sought policies to decrease taxes on the middle class. 16 taxings decreased for maul business and 3600 for the class that are done underneath this president. >> it sounds smart because of the accent. wayne, two examples. taxes that are in place and taxes that are coming in the end of the year and...
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joe biden is a very good debater. >> have you ever seen joe biden lose a debate? everyone talks about his gaffes on the road. he makes those some speeches. >> he never loses a debate. weap we were just saying that he beat barack obama every time he debated. >> he had the definitive line against rudy jewel yawnly. giulia giuliani. >> i've got to ask about your candidate's foreign policy address. that's happening today. >> today, virginia military institute. >> i'm looking at some of the previews of the speech. >> which he loves. >> i don't. he's going there on benghazi, talking about iran. does he really need to do this? >> yes, does. >> let me respond to that, you know. what he has done over the last couple weeks is tried, in working on the speech, is to try to step back and look at events in recent weeks and years. iran closer to a nuclear bomb than it has ever been before. syria in chaos. you know, lots of tumult throughout the middle east. the arab spring turning into some sort of dark winter. and he's taking a step back and looking -- this is the world we live
joe biden is a very good debater. >> have you ever seen joe biden lose a debate? everyone talks about his gaffes on the road. he makes those some speeches. >> he never loses a debate. weap we were just saying that he beat barack obama every time he debated. >> he had the definitive line against rudy jewel yawnly. giulia giuliani. >> i've got to ask about your candidate's foreign policy address. that's happening today. >> today, virginia military institute. >>...
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and, the vice presidential debate is coming up and joe biden, vice president joe biden and republican vp nominee congressman paul ryan facing off thursday night and how much of an impact will the debate have on the november election? susan estrich, a fox news contributor and professor of law and political science at the university of southern california. let's do it. we are operating within the margin of error. general consensus, saying president obama was less than effervescent in the first of the debates. but, those latest... >> effervescent is kind. >> arthel: the poll numbers -- i try. the poll numbers, the governor, gosh romney came out with shining stars and does it mean, the stakes are higher for the vp debate? voters are actually looking into the debates and are tuning in and, are looking for answers. >> vp debates matter, if they -- if vp debates matter i would have been attorney general top of the united states instead of back to teaching and you played the clip, where bentsen squashed dan quayle and, we had our campaign chairman and governor clinton and our top staff and we
and, the vice presidential debate is coming up and joe biden, vice president joe biden and republican vp nominee congressman paul ryan facing off thursday night and how much of an impact will the debate have on the november election? susan estrich, a fox news contributor and professor of law and political science at the university of southern california. let's do it. we are operating within the margin of error. general consensus, saying president obama was less than effervescent in the first of...